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Mercedes W201 190E 16V EVO • Thema anzeigen - Ausbau der Hydraulik von Niveau und ASD
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Ausbau der Hydraulik von Niveau und ASD

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 11:38
von MetallMann

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 12:06
von Chris Martens

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 13:22
von florianh
Hi Chris,

ich bin der Meinung das ASD arbeitet im 190E nur bis zu einer gewissen Geschwindigkeit. Ich meine es sind so um die 20 Km/h. Somit bringt es in der Kurve bei Geschwindigkeiten über dieser Grenze doch keinen Vorteil. Nur beim Anfahren aus dem Stand soll es einen gewissen Vorteil bringen, weil es das Durchdrehen eines einzelnen Rades verhindert.

Aber auch ich würde das ASD nicht rauschmeißen. Gehört schließlich irgendwie zum 16er dazu.

Gruß,
Flo

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 13:48
von Henger
Hallo MetallMann,

der Öldruck und der Rastenspanner haben eine unterschiedliche Schlüsselweite (Schlüsselweite- Rastenspanner 27, Öldruckspanner <Kleineres Maß), somit kann man von aussen erkennen welcher Typ verbaut ist :wink: mehr zu diesem Thema und ein paar Bilder findest du hier >>> http://www.w201-16v.de/w201/viewtopic.p ... er&start=0 <<<<

Gruß Fränk

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 13:49
von Chris Martens
moin Florian,

ganz richtig, das ASD arbeitet bis ca. 38 km/h, d.h. es sperrt unterhalb dieser Geschwindigkeiten bei Bedarf komplett. Bei einem funktionsfähigen (also jüngst revidierten :) ) Sperrdiff bleiben bei höheren Geschwindigkeiten aber immer noch die 35% Grundsperre erhalten.

Nimmt man ein glaufenes ASD und entfernt die hydraulische Sperre, hat man praktisch ein offenes Diff, das macht im 16V nicht so richtig Spaß.

Sicher schreibt NP noch was dazu, er hat in seinem Stein neulich das ASD nachgerüstet (gab's ja erst ab 1987) und ist vom Unterschied begeistert!

bis denn,
Christian

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 14:10
von MetallMann
hallo,

Erstma danke für die vielen Antworten.
Ich möchte Konidämpfer Verbauen, desderwegen.
gut also lass ich ASD drinn!

Hab jetzt noch ein paar andere beiträge gelesen, und bei fast 200tkm werd ich am besten rastenspanner und Kette erneuern.
das wird wohl das beste sein.

gruss

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 14:26
von Chris Martens

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 14:36
von Racer

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 14:59
von Chris Martens

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:01
von 16V Thomas

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:31
von Robi 2.5-16V

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:32
von 16V Thomas

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:38
von mbv8

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:38
von Robi 2.5-16V
Dann müsste ich doch das Warndreieck im Kombiinstrument haben. Hab ich aber nicht. Also habe ich doch einen falschen Tacho (Meinung von Null Positiv) drin? Weil der auch mehr anzeigt --->

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BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:39
von Chris Martens
moin,

das geht ja wieder munter durcheinander hier! Also:

Sperrdifferential war immer Serienumfang beim Sechzehnventiler!

Die ersten 16V hatten ein Sperrdifferential mit 35% Sperre, keine Elektronik, keine Hydraulik, also nix ASD.

Zitat aus der Einführungsschrift ASD:
"Beim Typ 201.034 (190 E 2.3-16) ist ab Januar 1987 ASD in der Grundausstattung enthalten."

ASD ist im Prinzip dasselbe Sperrdiff, wie bisher auch, aber elektrisch geschaltet kann die Hydraulik das Differential komplett sperren. Die Elektronik macht diese 100% Sperre bis maximal 38km/h - sonst ist der Abflug programmiert.

Bei ca. 100t-150tkm (kann man so pauschal gar nicht sagen, es hängt ja vom Einsatz des Fahrzeuges ab, aber egal) sind die Reibscheiben so blank, daß von der Grundsperre nichts mehr übrig ist. Dann wirkt das ASD noch beim Anfahren, wie Thomas es beschrieb, aber ansonsten ist das Dingens offen.

bis denn,
Christian

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:40
von Robi 2.5-16V

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:41
von 16V Thomas

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:42
von mbv8

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 15:53
von 16V Thomas

BeitragVerfasst: 26. Feb 2007, 16:37
von NullPositiv